#035: Lead, Follow, or Get out of the Way? (HOTW: Rachel Held Evans)

What should true church leadership look like? Is it authority-based or influence-based? Plus, Rachel Held Evans (author of Inspired and Searching for Sunday) is our Heretic of the Week.

Show Notes

• 00:20 – Introduction.
• 03:38 – Text to the Hotline asking about an episode on the damage from the Evangelical church towards women and homosexuality.
• 06:07 – Did Jesus have a romantic or sexual life?
• 07:20 – Text from a listener about angels, demons, and demon possession.
• 11:41 – Introduction to our Heretic of the Week: Rachel Held Evans.
• 14:45 – Why Rachel is considered a heretic: Once she referred to God with a female pronoun, she doesn’t use the word inerrant to describe the Bible, and she is gay-affirming.
• 16:30 – Jesus addressing human institutions including the Sabbath and Marriage.
• 18:27 – Divorce and women.
• 20:49 – Law and Love.
• 24:10 – Rachel’s new book about the Bible, Inspired: Slaying Giants, Walking on Water, and Loving the Bible Again.
• 26:43 – Jewish interpretations of scripture.
• 30:17 – Rachel’s background with deconstruction and reconstruction.
• 41:20 – Navigating paradigm shifts with a spouse.
• 43:19 – Idea of men being the spiritual leaders.
• 45:59 – The women in Jesus’s life.
• 48:55 – End of interview.
• 49:50 – What is a leader?
• 56:37 – Leadership in the kingdom is serving.
• 1:00:40 – The ideas of pastors and clergy.
• 1:03:25 – Influence.
• 1:14:54 – Mimetic theory and pastors. Pastors as scapegoats.
• 1:19:00 – First century church.